this is what i learned in newark. if you start cutting programs for the poor, you start to inflict a damage not on the poor but on yourself because in this country, it's the truth. it's easier to raise strong children than to heal broken men. we wonder why we have such high medical costs, we're not making the front end investments. if they cut them in college and universities we may get a short-term benefit but lose the long-term gain. >> i think our table is reflecting why congress is having trouble, as well. the other big debate over how confront violence in schools and across the country. we saw that press conference by wayne lapierre on friday. the national rifle association executive and drew a fierce reaction. look at the cover of "the new york post" and "daily news." craziest man on earth, "new york post," gun nut. grover, you are a member of the agree with the positions of the organization but do you think that performance helped your cause on friday? >> well, what's interesting is the reaction to when wayne l